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I think it may be the other way around. What was really wanted was a Nixonian book with no shred of optimism in it. Regardless, author's can only put things to paper. The original American publication of A Clockwork Orange also excluded this chapter, in which Alex is growing out of his taste for violence and looking forward to a future with a wife and son, whom he does not want to turn out like Alex himself. But Burgess actually wrote an additional chapter and that is the one he prefers (if I remember correctly maybe the original editors didn’t like it). This teen gang drinks milk that’s laced with drugs, and then savagely assaults an elderly man, subsequently destroying the library books … First of all, there is no indication throughout the movie (and I presume the book) that Alex is interested in any genuine change. However, now that I've grown up and kind of gone through my own Alex phase, I can say that the chapter only adds to the book, adds a message that the young will choose bad or good themselves, and rather than thrusting the choice upon them, we should let them come to their decisions on their own. For starters, I'd argue Alex's journey, from punk to mind-control poster child to "cured," is a novelistic character arc, albeit an unconventional one. ::shudder:: in the novel, Alex and co wear wolf's head jock straps, whereas in the movie, they wear dancer's belts. While he was in the hospital, the government fiddled around inside his gulliver and reversed the Ludovico Treatment (and then tested him to make sure he was again a vicious little sociopath happily making jokes about rape and thinking that the best thing to do with eggs would be to smash them), and he was now free to be a monster in their service --just as his fellow droogies had used their thuggishness in the State's service when they joined the Police Force. Beware of buying German books without looking. He's back to doing the same old stuff, as shown in the final scene, except it looks consensual, and everyone around him is clapping. Alex tells her that while he was drifting in and out of clarity, he thought that the doctors were fiddling around inside his head. While Burgess’ … Thanks, [–]C_Me 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). In which case, this is the book … I don't think there's anything glorifying in that. Summary Read a Plot Overview of the entire book or a chapter by chapter Summary and Analysis. I also love both book and movie. Burgess himself admits to enjoying Alex’s prurient pleasures “by-proxy” in his critical (maybe hypocritical) forward to the book, and I think the manipulation of such urges are at the center of Kubrick’s production even as the irrational argument of freewill is given much lip service (irrational because there is even less evidence for the existence of freewill than there is evidence that violent films can adversely affect behavior). Anthony Burgess’ dismissal of the Stanley Kubrick adaptation of his novel A Clockwork Orange is one for the ages. Rendered by PID 23382 on r2-app-0d385b4c3ab8950bb at 2020-12-24 20:18:08.624801+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: PL. This article is entirely opinion, so I have no idea how you came to the conclusion that it was meant to be fact. The rest of the novel -- the potent creations of Alex, the nadsat dialect, his dreary world, and his responses to it (including his love of music) -- is great in spite of that ending, not because of it. So the original ending to the book ends like the movie, and yes, the idea is that he returns (or is going to return) to his old wicked ways. [–]jackaroojackson 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children). The film version of A Clockwork orange was released in 1971. The book’s ending… I think this is one of the main reasons people tend to enjoy books over movies. The film is a visceral and blackly cynical satire. Perhaps that is the point. The same can be said for movies, games, music or any other artistic media. The next novel like A Clockwork Orange has been labelled an allegory, a political treatise, a morality tale even a vision of the apocalypse, but to me, William Golding’s outstanding novel Lord of the Flies is a poignant reminder of the inevitable end … More importantly, How can Alex forget? When he imagine a girl doing sex with him. They give him a comfortable life and room to do his evil activities, and he doesn't tell the world about the Treatment. The violence is told in such an overtly choreographed and comical way that its producers can seem insensitive and voyeuristically ghoulish; the creators of a fashionable glorification of cruel behavior. Being raised in America I've been stuffed to the gills with happy endings and bullshit sell-out endings for decades. Sitting in his office, he gestured to the shelf behind him. They can't decide what people take from that paper. I love the book. I read the book many times in my teens and twenties, and did not see the movie until adulthood- I love both versions, though the book wins by a nose. And how can the society turn upside down if it’s not organised. Even trashy bestsellers show people changing. A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess is a novel told in three sections. a clockwork orange is the best book ever written because it breaks free of ordinary book structure. What's the Difference between A Clockwork Orange the Book and A Clockwork Orange the Movie? The book was published in 1962, written in the dystopian genre, and made into a movie in 1971. His books have been published all over the world and include A Clockwork Orange, The Clockwork Testament, Inside Mr Enderby, Enderby's Dark Lady, Earthly Powers, Abba Abba and The End … I really struggle reading rape scenes so haven't read the book yet. Instead, A Clockwork Orange was meant to end with a chapter (which nearly every copy of the book now contains) in which Alex quite suddenly loses his taste for violence, and decides he … Towards the end it also feels as if the author has lost his way a bit, too. Casting MM was brilliant, and though his mad glee in the violence is palpable, it does nothing to glorify the violence he and his droogs indulge in. The book was difficult for me to get into, but I thought the film was very good. I have a slightly different opinion from the rest. In fact, this is the only chapter where our protagonist-narrator experiences growth, or more profoundly, … Because the main aim of the story is to warn - look, how our society could look like in few decades, think about it. [–]nakedsamurai 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children). As John O’Connell writes in his entry on A Clockwork Orange in Bowie’s Books (2019), “The biggest difference…has to do with the ending. And for whatever it is worth, this is my red cent on the matter. @Josh - that's an interesting angle! from Montreal, Canada is reading, Patrick Riley The teenage protagonist, Alex, narrates his violent exploits and his experiences with state authorities intent on reforming him. The resulting ambivalence -- a singular urge to cheer for joy and scream in horror at the same time, was unforgettable. He’s a Kennedy man and Kubrick’s a Nixon man. I definitely don't buy that. Kubrick categorically was not celebrating violence and depravity, though he did succeed in winning considerable audience allegience to vicious little Alex, mainly by contrasting him with corrupt and apathetic bureaucrats around him: Alex was nasty and cruel, but at least he wasn't dead inside. This Spoils the Ending In the Book… from Czech Republic is reading, JimAkin Unless you can read German. Oh it all makes sense now. I don’t want to live in a world where I have to choose between a brilliant author or a visionary director, and thankfully, I don’t have to. and join one of thousands of communities. I came to the novel A Clockwork Orange via the film and it was a wholly different experience. Just because a work, no matter the medium, may end on a note of moral ambivalence, does not preclude it from being a work of art. from Massachsetts is reading, Book vs. Film vs. Mini Series: The Shining, Book Vs. Film Vs. Film: The Girls With The Dragon Tattoos, Everything You Need To Know About Philip Pullman’s ‘His Dark Materials’ Before The BBC Miniseries, 150 Years Later, ‘Little Women’ Is Still The Biggest Of Deals, Stephen King's 10 Best - Yes, Best! I love the book. They have, to match and fit his needs, because they don't desire justice, they desire peace. For leaked info about upcoming movies, twist endings, or anything else spoileresque, please use the following method: Really? The text … He tells him that the Left-Wing man who had imprisoned him had been dealt with, and that there was a good job waiting for someone like Alex. Though I haven't yet read the book, in theory, I like the way the movie ends (or the book without the final chapter). I didn't like the gentling of the child rape and rolling the old drunk scenes, I think the film got vilified enough Kubrick might as well have gone balls-out. So therein lies the root of Burgess’ displeasure with Kubrick’s adaptation. In the end, I think most people will realize that is what they take out of any bit of fictional work, be it written, directed, composed or coded; something new to think about and chew over. One implication of the "happy" ending seems to be that Alex simply grew out of his sadistic, sociopathic ways: Droogs will be droogs. The reason why the book is more violent - and that's good point - is because it is supposed to disgust us. from Union, NH is reading, K. H. Feikus The idea is that people don’t really change. It wasn't a cure it was basically a Pavlov's dog style scenario. There are many smaller particulars in which the film and book differ – Alex’s weapon in the book is a razor, and in the film it’s a knife hidden within his cane; in the book he’s conditioned against all classical music, and in the film it’s only Beethoven’s Ninth; he volunteers for the Ludovico conditioning in the book and it’s assigned to him in the film; in the book he’s fifteen and in the film he’s a few years older; there is no mention of “Singin’ in the Rain” in Burgess’ novel. No God = no one is ever truly right or wrong about anything, thus satire is one slave criticizing another for being a different kind of slave, which is logically absurd. I should not have written the book because of this danger of misinterpretation. No God = no meaning but what delusions we dabble in. Lots of things to think about. And for the record, the Shining is to me simply another example of good book and good film experience, but one of the few times I preferred the film over book. In the case of Clockwork, the only change Alex experiences throughout the narrative is ushered in by external forces--so when his 'tormentors' remove the conditioning, he of course becomes the same old Alex again. It is set in a near-future society that has a youth subculture of extreme violence. So I don’t think the book or the film is better – both have much to offer, different questions to answer. I saw the movie first, and its ending sparked an emotional response like few I've ever had to any work of art. It seems as if Kubrick’s deliberate contradictions and tendency to set the audience at unease make those authors uncomfortable, as do his liberal adaptations of their work. Even once the technique is proclaimed a success and Alex is released, we're not given any indication that he's truly grown and changed, but that he's not in control of his behavior. How can we forget who Alex really is? Ending / spoiler for A Clockwork Orange (1971), plus mistakes, quotes, trivia and more. Yes, Burgess created this story and in that way it belongs to him, but he also sold the rights to Hollywood, and in that way it does not. I also don't usually like 'definite' endings, but rather, I prefer open-ended conclusions where you don't have to be told by the author what happens to the character(s). The fall plus the government tinkering while he was out seemed to have fixed him though. from New York is reading, Meredith You've Had Your Time: Being the Second Part of the Confessions of Anthony Burgess is an amazing book. And that’s that.". I think he liked to use film as a medium to juggle (or jumble if you like) a multitude of ideas in the context of one story. Was Stanley Kubrick even aware that his film could be perceived this way and did/would he feel such a thing was significant in the larger scheme of existence? @Khalil Clockwork Orange wasn't written by King, and she was referring to The Shining. Even though that was also because of the own language, and the way it dragged you into Alex's head, unpleasant as it may have been in there :). In the film, Alex has seemingly consensual sex with two teenage girls not much younger than he. To each his/her own. I loved the use of Singling in the Rain, and the stylized look of the movie. There's no proper way to flavor emotions in movies outside lighting and music, which many directors have tried to do in film. The twenty-first chapter gives the novel the quality of genuine fiction, an art founded on the principle that human beings change. I see the book as more a statement of society and the baby boomer generation than about one individual although it is told through his eyes. 1971 full ending and credits of "A Clockwork Orange" filmed in the cinema. I personally like both, for their own merits, and recognize them for the individual beasts that they are. It seems most people watched the movie first, before reading the book. The Witch is exactly the kind of horror movie I was looking for, Why The Muppet Christmas Carol is my favorite version, Paddington 2 is the Dark Knight of talking animal family movies. He volunteers for the Ludovico technique so he can get out of prison. The original American publication of A Clockwork Orange also excluded this chapter, in which Alex is growing out of his taste for violence and looking forward to a future with a wife and son, whom he does not want to turn out like Alex himself. My heart hurts just thinking about it. Same goes for the costumes which helps us understand that it's happening in future though it's obvious it's not so distant future which is worrying. A Clockwork Orange, novel by Anthony Burgess, published in 1962. The movie ending leaves the viewer with the message that there are corrupt and evil people/institutions in the world, and does not glorify them, but rather suggests that they need to be stopped. But the most drastic disparity between A Clockwork Orange the film and the novel is that Kubrick’s film omits a (sort of) happy ending epilogue written by Burgess for the book. I like Alex feeling tormented at the end, it leaves the question open. Will have to chew on it. The extra chapter just seems unauthentic and jarring and borderline cheesy... like being a psychopath is something you grow out of as you mature. [–]TheShadyGuy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children). No movie will be able to accurately portray the inner dialogue that we are allowed to watch unfold in a book. Main Ideas The Film and the Final Chapter of A Clockwork Orange In 1962 , two versions of Anthony Burgess’s novel A Clockwork Orange were published. According to Burgess, it was a jeu d'… In the future, a sadistic gang leader is imprisoned and volunteers for a conduct-aversion experiment, but it doesn't go as planned. In the novel, I felt that Alex was a smart lad, who just used his brains for the wrong kicks. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Who ever heard of a clockwork orange?’ Then I read a malenky bit out loud in a sort of very high preaching goloss: ‘—The attempt to impose upon man, a creature of growth and capable of sweetness, to ooze juicily at the last round the bearded lips of God, to attempt to impose, I say, laws and conditions appropriate to a mechanical creation, against this I raise my swordpen—‘. 10 year old children though? The film, I am not sure about. Whatever follows is probably just as moronic and opinionated, being the product of a writer that can't see the big fat line dividing her unsubstantiated opinions from critical concensuses. I think the most shocking part of book (at least for me) is the end of first part when Alex says 'That was everything. He definitely felt the repercussions of making it (not because of stupidity, as one might smugly suggest, but rather a different sensitivity than his own). He wants a different kind of future. The post will then be hidden like this. Kubrick was right to cut the last chapter. However, this is the German version. It's been a while, but I believe they un-did the procedure to score political points. They have two different endings. [–]Spiro2003[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children), Holy shit dude yes!!! And the other reason I prefer the movie ending to the book ending is the message it communicates. Now maybe in the book there is and I just haven't read it yet, but from what I've heard, I haven't gotten that impression from the book. Burgess seemed to be going for a Crime and Punishment-type redemption, but I don't think he earned it. from New Zealand is reading, Kevin Maddox Intresting article. Alex, violent criminal that he is, passes through four stages - or, since he's a music lover, we might consider the book … Without this epilogue, A Clockwork Orange ends … from Connecticut, USA is reading, Kelly A Egan They looked like they had been in some big bitva, as indeed they had, and were all bruised and pouty. There is no hint of this change of intention in the twentieth chapter. I didn’t feel like going out in streets and start to punch people when I finished reading the book or watching the film. This is not a movie meant for kids, unless they understand the important morals of the plot. Huh that makes sense actually. It is set in a dismal dystopian England and presents a first-person account of a juvenile delinquent who undergoes state-sponsored … Again, I've yet to read the book and my opinion could change, but as of now, this is how I see it. I think if the film had included the happy ending from the novel, it would change my entire view of the film. Alex might be naturally evil but in the end he's just a tool for governement's contest. 2) The novel Main Theme. I'm willing to believe any character can change, but I need convincing. A Clockwork Orange is a dystopian satirical black comedy novel by English writer Anthony Burgess, published in 1962. I read the "British" edition of the book (available in the states for decades), the one with the "happy" ending. But here’s what’s interesting about Burgess’ claim – in many ways, A Clockwork Orange the film is more palatable than the book. Is it only that no words, however evocative, can ever pierce our comfort level the way an effectively directed scene of violence can? …and then I felt the old tigers leap in me and then I leapt on these two young ptitsas. With the idea of A Clockwork Orange Anthony Burgess was (among other things) attempting to make a definitive statement about the human moral condition. So he thinks that last chapter is needed. A Clockwork Orange isn't one of those books with a sympathetic narrator. Then, BAM!, he's suddenly a quasi-remorseful man with aims at family life. So by the end of the movie, when he's "cured" and it's hinted that he is going to return to his old ways, it would seem kind of odd and out of place that there would be a conclusion where suddenly he's grown and changed, because there's no indication throughout that he genuinely wants to change! otherwise, I suppose that they are two different versions of the same story, and I far prefer Burgess' use of language (Russian propaganda mixed with babytalk) vs Kubrick's dance presentation. A Clockwork Orange certainly has an originality, but as it took me three weeks to read a relatively short book… They seal the deal when Alex lets the Governor feed him. In this, however, Kubrick was no different than Burgess, who drew the same contrasts and also used narrator Alex's asides to pull the reader into his confidence. Kubrick managed, through a masterful merging of imagery, narration and, perhaps most of all, Beethoven's transcendent music, to induce a mix of elation and revulsion like none I've ever experienced. [–]ZorroMeansFoxr/Movies Veteran 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child). I love the movie. But I can honestly say I'm biased, I remember loving the book, and reading it two or three times in a short period of time. Great comment, thank you so much, and I've never heard that quote from James M. Cain, but I love it! That's not exactly how it goes. He hasn't changed. Reading through the synopsis of the book made me feel like the last chapter was just his last-ditch attempt to make it a novel instead of a fable. I thought that was the case considering his last line in the movie was “I was cured alright”. Now, I’m certainly not arguing that Burgess’ novel glorifies sexual assault and Kubrick’s film does not, as both are clearly parables about the damaging effects of ultraviolence. 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